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- Info-Hams Digest Sat, 6 Nov 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1313
-
- Today's Topics:
- "outdoor antenna" ban
- BAUD VS BAUDS
- characteristic impedance
- QSO help
- Radio Shack HTs
- Slowpokes
- Swan 350 Info wanted
-
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-
- Date: 6 Nov 93 04:49:03 GMT
- From: sytex!jim@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: "outdoor antenna" ban
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Thanks for the response guys, to my problem on my miserable little
- ground plane for 2M that I put out and bring back in. Here's the
- summary of suggestions for the group. /
-
- My favorite is that of Ross, ve6pdg (see below). I'll probably
- use a combo of them :-> ...
-
- jim - ad4je
-
- responses follow...
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
- From: Scott Richard Rosenfeld <uunet!wam.umd.edu!ham>
-
- Invoke PRB-1. Federal law takes precedence. I mean, it's not like it's
- always out there, right?
-
- Scott NF3I
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
- From: uunet!ERA.COM!mark (Mark Feit)
-
- Certainly. Check the rules carefully, and see if it applies to
- permanent structures or *ANYTHING* placed outdoors for any length of
- time, however short. Most associations restrict things that are
- placed outside more or less permanently. I'd try one of the following
- (in order of personal preference):
-
- Common Sense Approach: Argue that because the antenna is not outdoors
- permanently, it is, as you pointed out, no different than hanging the
- power cord out the window to vacuum the car. Don't expect this one to
- work.
-
- Legal Nitpicking Approach: Try the selective enforcement angle. If
- they allow things like cordless/cellular phones, boom boxes or radio
- controlled toys to be operated "outdoors," they must also allow your
- antenna as long as it's not out there for extended periods of time.
- (If you *really* want them to pay attention, an attourney quietly
- taking notes throughout the whole proceeding probably wouldn't hurt.)
-
- General Nitpicking Approach: If you use your antenna indoors, then
- it's not an outdoor antenna, even though it's physically outdoors. If
- you'd really like to convince them, bring a Diamond X-500 to your
- hearing and show them what a REAL outdoor antenna looks like.
-
- Wile E. Coyote Approach: Build the antenna into a piece of your lawn
- furniture. (I presume your association doesn't dictate what makes and
- models of furniture you can put outside...)
-
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
- From: uunet!cs.athabascau.ca!rwa (Ross Alexander)
-
- Explain to them that to overcome the losses of using an indoor
- antenna, you'll have to raise power. Stress the fact that increased
- power indoors means they'll be exposed to greatly increased
- *RADIATION* (oooohhhhh!! bad nasty scare word!). Let them know they
- have absolutely no legal remedy against that, and offer to ameliorate
- the situation by using an external antenna.
-
- regards,
- Ross ve6pdq
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
- From: uunet!net.com!larson (Alan Larson)
-
- Move.
-
- Or, use an indoor antenna, and somewhat more power. About 250
- watts of SSB with an indoor antenna will take out most VCRs in
- the building.
-
- Alan
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
- From: "msanders" <uunet!smtpgw.sim.es.com!msanders.Macintosh_Mail_Server>
-
- I would suggest a 2M J-Pole. I have several at home, and can suspend one from
- the ceiling, push a tack through the top and pin it to the wall, or use your
- imagination. This is made from 300 ohm twin lead, can be rolled up (if you use
- the flexible twin lead and not the more stiff foam filled stuff), and you can
- solder on a BNC connector, then use the length you need of coax with a BNC on
- each end, hooking it up when you want, and taking it off when you want (like if
- a complaining neighbor is pounding on your door).
-
- Good Luck,
-
- Milt
- KB7MSF
-
- ---
- jim@sytex.com (Jim Arnold)
- Access <=> Internet BBS, a public access internet site
- Sytex Communications, Arlington VA, 1-703-528-4380
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 3 Nov 93 18:08:30 EDT
- From: hayes!bcoleman@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: BAUD VS BAUDS
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2ajofp$stp@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, cravitma@pacific.uucp (Matthew B Cravit) writes:
- >
- > As I have always used it (as a computer person soon to hopefully be a
- > technician-class ham), I have always said "baud" as a synonym for
- > "bps" or bits-per-second.
-
- They are not synomyms. Bps stands for bits-per-second, which is a unit of
- information transfer rate. Very clearly defined.
-
- Baud is the name for symbols per second. This is the rate of state changes
- in a communications link. Since each symbol conveys some number of bits (which
- could be less than, equal to, or greater than 1), then bps does not necessarily
- equal baud.
-
- Example: common 1200 bps modems are actually 600 baud. Two bits of
- information are communicated in each symbol.
-
- Oh, and there's no such thing as "bauds." Like sheep, the plural requires no
- "s" suffix.
-
- --
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- Disclaimer: "My employer doesn't pay me to have opinions."
- Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -Steve Hackett.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 6 Nov 93 00:20:32 GMT
- From: ogicse!news.tek.com!tekig7!tekig6!royle@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: characteristic impedance
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- charlier@lsid.hp.com (Charlie Panek):
-
- >[interesting discussion about measuring characteristic impedance of a
- >coaxial line. . .]
-
- >. . .Probably the cheapest and most reliable method is to read the numbers
- >stamped on the side of the coax, and look them up in a reference book..
-
- Cheapest, sure, but not entirely reliable. My eyes were opened recently
- when I did a careful measurement, using two different methods with a network
- analyzer, of Z0 of several lengths of "RG-58" coax from my junk box. Some
- were as high as 61 ohms. In practice, this won't make a significant
- difference for most amateur applications, but could really goof up a
- phased array feed system.
-
- My standard techniques at home are with a trimpot at the cable end, and
- either TDR or a homebuilt resistance bridge. With the bridge, I adjust the
- pot until the resistance looking into the cable doesn't change as I vary
- the frequency.
-
- 73,
- Roy Lewallen, W7EL
- royle@tekig6.pen.tek.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 6 Nov 93 04:10:11 GMT
- From: ogicse!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!silver.ucs.indiana.edu!djadams@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: QSO help
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Greetings! Updating the search for a qso, I was calling cq at about
- 0330 UTC, about to give up, when I was answered by KB8LGE...I thought I was
- going to have a heart attack. I fumbled over a reply (rst and ur my
- first qso....completely forgot to mention my name, qth, etc), but at that
- moment, Static just took over my slice of the band, and I couldn't get
- anything else....ah well...back to the bands...
-
- 73 de dave, N9UXU
-
- David J Adams, N9UXU Internet: djadams@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
- Amiga User and Flow Cytometry Advocate
- Looking for a mobile 2m and/or 70cm rig
- Conure Society of America. "Push the button Frank..."
- --- -. .-.. -.-- .- -- .. --. .-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 6 Nov 93 01:39:41 GMT
- From: sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@hplabs.hp.com
- Subject: Radio Shack HTs
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Riyadth Al-Kazily (riyadth@boi.hp.com) wrote:
-
- : 2m comparisons, from QST (Oct '92). As measured in the ARRL Lab
-
- : RS Alinco Icom Yaesu Kenwood Standard
- : HTX-202 DJ-F1T IC-P2AT FT-411E TH-225A C168A
- : Two-tone,
- : third-order
- : dynamic range: 70.5 62 65 43.5 67.5 74
- : (dB, 20kHz off)
-
- : Dual band comparisons, from QST (Jun '91). As measured in the ARRL Lab
-
- : Alinco Icom Yaesu Kenwood Standard
- : DJ-560T IC-32AT FT-470 TH-77A C228A
- : Two-tone,
- : third-order
- : dynamic range: 53 58 53 60 69
- : (dB, 20kHz off)
-
- It's even worse than that. The above numbers are for 20 kHz spacing.
- If you measured the IMD for OUT OF BAND interfering signals, the Rat Shack
- unit would look even better because of its tighter front-end filtering.
-
- AL N1AL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 6 Nov 93 01:42:50 GMT
- From: ogicse!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Slowpokes
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Clay Jackson (cjackso@uswnvg.com) wrote:
- : Derek Wills (oo7@emx.cc.utexas.edu) wrote:
- : : alanb@sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) says:
-
- : : comes back with their call and QRZ? again. Ack. Of course, if you
- : : listen a bit before calling, you know the rhythm of the DX op, and if
- : : you have a long call and send it slowly, the best thing to do is turn
- : : off the radio and study to upgrade...
-
- : Yeah, right - I can't think of a better way to persuade those of us who ARE
- : trying to upgrade how nice and friendly our fellow hams can be. No wonder
- : most of the growth is in the "no-code".
-
- Be aware that I never said that. It is a quote from somebody else's posting.
-
- Having said that, I don't think the poster intended to be unfriendly. His
- point seems to be simply that if you have a long callsign, your only
- alternative is to get a new call (by upgrading).
-
- AL N1AL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 00:02:28 GMT
- From: pacbell.com!amdahl!netcomsv!netcom.com!greg@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: Swan 350 Info wanted
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <01H4VNEKVS9E004U18@ACAD.FANDM.EDU> CCS_MAH@admin.FandM.EDU (Mark Hemlick Ph. D.) writes:
- >I have a chance to buy a Swan 350 in "excellent" condition. I know nothing
- >about this rig other than that it puts out 300 W and is probably old.
-
- Half right. It's old. 350 watts is the input power. Figure on 200 out, but
- these things were a bit over-rated and used sweep tubes rather than real
- RF power amplifiers, so you'll want to be conservative.
-
- >Anyone have one or know how they do?
-
- They were okay. Swan gear was a mainstay in the 60's and early 70's,
- and were sort of the "Buick" of radio gear. Not the best but not the
- worst, either.
-
- > Are they tube or solid state,
-
- Probably all tubes, might have a solid-state receiver (not sure of the
- exact vintage, and I think the 350 went through several variations).
- The transmitter is definitely tubes.
-
-
- > analog
- >frequency display,
-
- Yes. You can still get after-market digital displays.
-
- >modes,
-
- SSB, CW, AM (kind of AM)
-
- >bands covered,
-
- 80-40-20-15-10, and probably no mods possible for WARC bands
-
- >general coverage receiver,
-
- Not on a rig of this vintage!
-
- >built-in filters
-
- Probably there were some optional IF filters, but don't expect much
-
- >suitable for HF packet?
-
- Remember what I said about sweep tubes in the final? High duty-cycle
- plays hell with these critters. On any type of digital mode, figure on
- dropping the power to 50% of the SSB level. Heck, some of these rigs
- didn't even allow as much power on CW as on SSB!
-
- > Also, what would be a good price? The
- >owner is asking $325, including speaker and power supply.
-
- No way. First forget the 'including,' as its almost always part of the
- deal, and is no good to the owner without the rig anyway. But seriously,
- for that kind of money you can get a log of much better rigs. If you're
- serious about packet, and want to do it on a tube rig, look for something
- with real transmitting tubes (6146's) in the final, like a TS520 (much
- more modern) or a GOOD Heath SB101 or HW101. On top of that the latter
- are probably more modern than the Swan (though the model was made rather
- late, over many years). Or, go for quality like Drake (they had sweep tubes
- but more conservatively rated) or an old Yaesu FTDX-series rig (also
- sweep tubes).
-
- If you're still interested in the Swan, fine, but I'd cut the price in half.
- As a beginner's first SSB and CW rig, I think it's okay. But don't pay a
- lot.
-
- One plus... ...the Swan dial mechanisms are legendary for their smoothness.
- That's something that often goes awry, particularly on old Heath rigs.
-
- On the other hand, if you have $325 in your pocket, keep looking for a
- kindly ham with a good rig.
-
- Greg
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 6 Nov 93 03:43:11 GMT
- From: ogicse!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <wb9omc.752453941@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu>, <931104.82031.LMARRIN@delphi.com>, <stephens.752507995@ngis>
- Subject : Re: 10m Mobile
-
- Dave, following is a file telling how to expand the range of the HTX100
- from 30 to 26 mhz. I have not tried it. (I copied it from a Packet
- bulletin.
-
- I'm already using Traksat 2.80; I downloaded it from GEnie.
-
- TTYL and I hope the mod file works for you. --Leigh/KM6JE.
- ______________________________________________________________
-
- * Extended Frequency Coverage from 26.000 Mhz to 30.000 Mhz
- ________ _________ ________ ____ ______ ___ __ ______ ___
-
- Thanks Percy for being the first one.
-
- Remove bottom cover. With the radio upside down and display facing you remove
- the synthesizer board with the four screws, this is near the front of the
- radio.
-
- This gives access to the small board underneath with the surface mount
- components on it. Locate the processor chip IC401 (UC-1208).Locate pins 28 and
- 29 which are on the right hand side of the chip and are 4th and 5th from the
- top. Note they are bridged with solder.
-
- CAREFULLY cut the copper track NEXT to the pins. DO NOT attempt to unsolder the
- two pins form the board and use a GROUNDED soldering iron. Locate the two rows
- of connector pins above the chip.
-
- On the bottom row locate the last pin on the right. Verify with a VOM that this
- pin has + five volts. Solder a 10k (1/4 w) resistor between this pin and pins
- 28 and 29 on IC401.The synthesizer will now tune from 26.00 Mhz to 30 Mhz.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 3 Nov 93 22:46:41 GMT
- From: munnari.oz.au!metro!news.ci.com.au!eram!dave@uunet.uu.net
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <9310210324.AA08266@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil>, <2a8kud$9go@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, <1993Oct29.173504.16491@combdyn.com>unet
- Subject : Re: "Vanity" Call Signs
-
- In article <1993Oct29.173504.16491@combdyn.com>,
- lawrence@combdyn.com (Lawrence *The Dreamer* Chen) writes:
-
- | Which is nothing compared to what us Canadians have to pay for our
- | callsigns now.
-
- Or us Aussies either.
-
- | And, it doesn't matter whether you get a vanity callsign or the first
- | available callsign.
-
- Ditto; they still cost the same: AU$35/year.
-
- --
- Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU) VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC PGP 2.3
- dave@esi.COM.AU ...munnari!esi.COM.AU!dave available
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 3 Nov 93 22:51:14 GMT
- From: munnari.oz.au!metro!news.ci.com.au!eram!dave@uunet.uu.net
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2a62vv$g29@clarknet.clark.net>, <2a8r50$mql@jericho.mc.com>, <1993Oct29.174431.16568@combdyn.com>eng.gt
- Subject : Re: "Vanity" Call Signs
-
- In article <1993Oct29.174431.16568@combdyn.com>,
- lawrence@combdyn.com (Lawrence *The Dreamer* Chen) writes:
-
- | Up here, an Amateur had to change his callsign just so he could get his
- | callsign on his licence plate. He had previously requested his
- | initials, which happened to be a callsign for an Amateur who went SK,
- | his family wouldn't release the licence plate.
-
- Interesting. In Australia, all lapsed/deceased callsigns are up for
- grabs after a couple of years, or earlier with the permission of the
- deceased's family.
-
- One's initials, and so-called "dead men's callsigns" (two-letter
- suffixes) are in great demand.
-
- --
- Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU) VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC PGP 2.3
- dave@esi.COM.AU ...munnari!esi.COM.AU!dave available
-
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